30/50 HoM in 2 days, from scratch. Is it a lie? - Guild Wars Forums

dumimare · Nov 04, 2010, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Sounds very unlikely for me. I am in now way a GW pro, but I've been playing for about 2 years and I know my way around the game pretty well, I can make a good build, manage agro etc, yet I am barely at 8/50

I read in another thread that

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Filling HoM is made very easy by A-net should take a day or 2 to get to 30/50 from scrap.

Is it true? If so... how is it possible?

Sagaris · Nov 04, 2010, 05:59 AM // 05:59

I can't see how you could get to 30/50 in 2 days from scratch if you have no money. If money's no object, then it should be possible. But then again, I am no GW pro aswell. I got from 7/50 to 30/50 in 2 days, but that was because I just hit the jackpot and bought my way there.

dawnmist · Nov 04, 2010, 06:16 AM // 06:16

From scratch...so with no campaigns complete and no money? Not possible.

You can't afford elite armour/weapons...there's 16 points unavailable already, leaving a max possible of 34/50. No PvP title loses another 3 points...and the only PvP statue achievable in 2 days needs a ton of money or balthazar points (Zaishen) which you won't have, so possible points is only 31/50.

With no titles, no campaign completion, no mini pets (and no money to buy them), no hero armour (and no access to the challenge missions yet to get it, or money to buy it)...I reckon maxing the other monuments in 2 days from scratch is impossible.

Shadow Dragon · Nov 04, 2010, 06:27 AM // 06:27

sounds like a case of ***url removed...we dont need to advertise that kind of stuff*** syndrome...

Gennadios · Nov 04, 2010, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Unless your 2 year old account is 8/50 because you've been doing nothing but hoarding Ectos the whole time, it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to get 30/50 anytime soon.

In the mean time, complete all 3 campaigns with all missions/bonuses, that'll pop you up to 8 pts honor.

Next, do the Black Moa quest in Fac, charm a random pet and level it to 20, and then farm Djakah Inlet for 2 stolen sunspear armors. For a good 5 points in fellowship.

Everything else will require money, time, and ambition.

Iuris · Nov 04, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34

It's not possible. At least, not in a non-misleading way.

If you take "from scratch" as a new character on new account, you'd need a lot of time just to get the protector titles. Half an hour per mission, and already you'd need to play for two days straight to do it. And those are the "introductory titles" - first titles everyone gets.

The only way you could make the statement work would be if you have an already well entrenched account that has already done everything, unlocked every skill and outpost, and has accumulated a vast amount of wealth, and then convert the wealth to HoM points mostly by buying items that count.

IE, if you had the money to spare and sellers readily available, you could:
-buy minipets, max of 8 points.
-buy hero armor upgrades and pets, max of 8 points.
-buy all the required prestige armors, max 8 points.
-buy all prestige weapons, max of 8 points.

But really, how about we calculate those costs, too? Just how rich would you have to be? Would you really get that money in two days? Hell, with stacks of ectos, would you find sellers of all those items in two days?

Even the 20000 clicks needed to use fast consumables for the sweet tooth and party animal would be a strain on your fingers...

So, no, not really. However, SOME people got the wrong idea for several reasons:
-they already had many titles, but hadn't displayed them in the HoM. So, all they had to do was walk into the HoM and display them for a massive boost in points (display one title, and you've got 5 points here already (with the linked account and any title) - triple protector, and you're already 7 due to the extra statue bonus for 5 titles)
-they alreadys had many characters with a few pets each, and just displayed them to gain the points (note: 1 rare mini (celestial pets are relatively easily acquired), 1 unique mini (black moa chick, just a few hours' work) - and you're already at 3/8 for minis)
-everyone already has an elite armor, or the resources to buy one easily, so...
-justi finishing War in kryta will get you enough war supplies and medals to get an oppressor weapon, and at least for the start, before the market found out that previously low value diamonds, onyx and granite can actually run out at the traders, destroyer weapons were a matter of fast purchase

But as I said - to call this "from scratch" is ridiculously misleading.

Afonso Portugal · Nov 04, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00

How are you a pro if you have only completed elone? What about doing UW, FoW, DoA? What about completing all campaigns? What about maxing titles? How can you consider yourself a pro with only 1 elite armour? Not trying to be mean, but please don't say you are a pro like that >>

kupp · Nov 04, 2010, 10:26 AM // 10:26

It's not possible, not one bit.

Crimson Robes · Nov 04, 2010, 10:38 AM // 10:38

Play through factions, should take about a day max (2 titles, playing thru + all mishes mastered)

Capping moa takes about 20 minutes

Complete UW and FoW (2 hours each)

8 points from honor: 3 for accs linked, 2 for any statue, 3 for 5 statues

cap black widow while ur at it

Sell your ectos and shards should EASILY be able to get 1 green and one gold mini

+3 points: any mini, rare mini, unique mini

Go to EoTN get ran to the cnetral transfer chamber, do glints challenge for a few hero armors.

+5 points: Any hero, any pet, rare pet, 5 statues

Add ANY weapon to hom (destroyer, tormented or opressor, i think destroyer is the cheapest atm)

+2 points

18 points so far in 2 days, no cash to start with. Altho i admit doing UW might be a bit hard for the less uhm...."pro" people

Edit: you can swap UW for sorrows furnace, its a bit easier to do, altho less reward. Also mox is free to add to HoM, easy point there also which you didnt utilize!

Edit: im 100% sure that you (by you i mean an experienced gw player on an entirely new account, not you per se) can get 30/50 in a week. Not 2 days maybe, but a week? piece of cake.

yitjuan · Nov 04, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41

If you get run through all 3 campaigns , NM and HM with bonuses, you will have 10 titles (3x Eternal Hero 3x Eternal Protector 4x Eternal Guardian)

Now who has that kind of cash ...

Sethellington · Nov 04, 2010, 11:06 AM // 11:06

2 days I doubt. But looking at your HoM, getting more points should be very easy.

Devotion:
1: Any Gold mini
2: Any Green mini
This'll give you 2 more points (and just buy first years, they're very cheap)

Fellowship:
1: Cap Black Moa
2: Go get MOX (does't need armour upgrade)
3: Do any of the hero armour mini-games (you only need 2)
4: Any 5 Statues (Full display). You'll get this for completing the other 2.
Should take less than an hour.

Honor:
1: Sorrow's Furnace
2: Complete Tyria
3: Complete Faction
This'll give you another 3 points. Depends how far you are, but should take ~4 hours to do only the necessary missions.

Resilience:
1: Elite Kurzick/Luxon
2: Elite Vabbian
3: Any 2 others.
This is very money dependant, but a very easy 5 points.

Valor:
1: Complete War in Kryta questline and get Oppressor Weapon.
2: Buy Destroyer Weapon
Another that's money dependent, but an easy 3 points.

This is an easy 15 points anyway that should be doable in 2 days.

Spookii · Nov 04, 2010, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Definitely not. For all the reasons listed above.

If you're truly starting *from scratch*. If you just found out about GW, are running around on an Elementalist with half your points into Beast Mastery and are using a quest-reward long sword, you probably won't get to 30/50 in the next month.

Just enjoy the game before it truly dies.

Crimson Robes · Nov 04, 2010, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Quote:

Filling HoM is made very easy by A-net should take a day or 2 to get to 30/50 from scrap.

It doesnt say by a new player. For experienced players its very well possible to get 20 or so, maybe even 30 if they have some cash they can loan from friends.

You might want to think about the blanket bot bans and this statement together. Maybe then it becomes more clear?

Krystaf · Nov 04, 2010, 11:32 AM // 11:32

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Originally Posted by Crimson Robes

Edit: im 100% sure that you (by you i mean an experienced gw player on an entirely new account, not you per se) can get 30/50 in a week. Not 2 days maybe, but a week? piece of cake.

I don't see even this being possible. It comes down to money that you will not have. No minis (at least not 20, if you spend your money on green+gold you can kiss your armor good bye), maybe 1-2 elite armors (one of them kurz/lux), no weapons (well maybe one oppressor), 10 companions (20, just maybe).

If you have a lot of friends willing to run sh*t load of stuff for you, maybe. But then they could just hand you the money to buy everything anyway. Still you have to realize how much time even 20-25 points take, running through all basic campaigns with bonus + EOTN + everything else (skills, hero armor, WiK, etc.).

we love ectos · Nov 04, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Went from 13 to 30 in a few days because i had some money to spend. So if you have money you can get points pretty easy, but not from 0 - 30 in 2 days.

Faure · Nov 04, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by Afonso Portugal

How are you a pro if you have only completed elone? What about doing UW, FoW, DoA? What about completing all campaigns? What about maxing titles? How can you consider yourself a pro with only 1 elite armour? Not trying to be mean, but please don't say you are a pro like that >>

He says "I am in now way a GW pro". "Now" is a typo for "no". You see?

Dzjudz · Nov 04, 2010, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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Originally Posted by Crimson Robes

Complete UW and FoW (2 hours each) Sell your ectos and shards should EASILY be able to get 1 green and one gold mini

Lol, did UW yesterday, only ecto I got was from end chest. 2 goldies, rest crap. Won't buy me anything (maybe 1 white mini with the prices these days).

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Originally Posted by Crimson Robes

Go to EoTN get ran to the cnetral transfer chamber, do glints challenge for a few hero armors.

You can't run to CTC (unless you participate in DD with someone who is doing that quest).

domaspiragas · Nov 04, 2010, 12:17 PM // 12:17

If you're sitting on a gold mine... and materials are at the trader + you have luck buying + Have time for sorrow's furnace + UW + FoW + Deep. Technically you could get 43 points in the span of 2 days. Possible? Yes. Likely? No way. But going 0-30 is more likely than you'd think (as long as you've got money).

Krystaf · Nov 04, 2010, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by domaspiragas

If you're sitting on a gold mine... and materials are at the trader + you have luck buying + Have time for sorrow's furnace + UW + FoW + Deep. Technically you could get 43 points in the span of 2 days. Possible? Yes. Likely? No way. But going 0-30 is more likely than you'd think (as long as you've got money).

Yes, this is true because 30/50 requires hardly any titles. But (a lot of) money = (a lot of) game time, unless you wanna risk getting banned.

Same thing could be said about 50/50 because (as it was said in another thread) there is hardly anything in HoM that you can't buy - with tons of money. Just takes a bit more time.

Skye Marin · Nov 04, 2010, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Considering each mission can take about 30 minutes, and then you include prep time and between-mission questing, completing all three campaigns and the expansion would take at least 36 hours. That's just to get to the end, assuming no fails, and all objectives gotten in one shot.

Two days is an obvious exaggeration. Even a week to get 30/50 would be, unless you cashed in some serious ToT stacks during Halloween.

If you played for 8 hours a day, and knew where everything was and used the wiki, the least amount of time it would take you is about 2 months to get 30/50, and that includes some farming time.

Nov 04, 2010, 06:16 AM // 06:16	#3
dawnmist Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Guild: Serpents Maw Esoteric Echelon Profession: R/	From scratch...so with no campaigns complete and no money? Not possible. You can't afford elite armour/weapons...there's 16 points unavailable already, leaving a max possible of 34/50. No PvP title loses another 3 points...and the only PvP statue achievable in 2 days needs a ton of money or balthazar points (Zaishen) which you won't have, so possible points is only 31/50. With no titles, no campaign completion, no mini pets (and no money to buy them), no hero armour (and no access to the challenge missions yet to get it, or money to buy it)...I reckon maxing the other monuments in 2 days from scratch is impossible. Last edited by dawnmist; Nov 04, 2010 at 06:19 AM // 06:19..

Nov 04, 2010, 06:27 AM // 06:27	#4
Shadow Dragon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Harrismith, South Africa Guild: [SAGA] Profession: W/Mo	sounds like a case of *url removed...we dont need to advertise that kind of stuff* syndrome... Last edited by cosyfiep; Nov 04, 2010 at 07:24 AM // 07:24.. Reason: removed link--mod edit

Nov 04, 2010, 10:38 AM // 10:38	#9
Crimson Robes Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Holland Guild: Sexy Shinigami Misa [????????????] Profession: D/W	Play through factions, should take about a day max (2 titles, playing thru + all mishes mastered) Capping moa takes about 20 minutes Complete UW and FoW (2 hours each) 8 points from honor: 3 for accs linked, 2 for any statue, 3 for 5 statues cap black widow while ur at it Sell your ectos and shards should EASILY be able to get 1 green and one gold mini +3 points: any mini, rare mini, unique mini Go to EoTN get ran to the cnetral transfer chamber, do glints challenge for a few hero armors. +5 points: Any hero, any pet, rare pet, 5 statues Add ANY weapon to hom (destroyer, tormented or opressor, i think destroyer is the cheapest atm) +2 points 18 points so far in 2 days, no cash to start with. Altho i admit doing UW might be a bit hard for the less uhm...."pro" people Edit: you can swap UW for sorrows furnace, its a bit easier to do, altho less reward. Also mox is free to add to HoM, easy point there also which you didnt utilize! Edit: im 100% sure that you (by you i mean an experienced gw player on an entirely new account, not you per se) can get 30/50 in a week. Not 2 days maybe, but a week? piece of cake. Last edited by Crimson Robes; Nov 04, 2010 at 11:05 AM // 11:05..

Nov 04, 2010, 05:59 AM // 05:59	#2
Sagaris Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Netherlands.	I can't see how you could get to 30/50 in 2 days from scratch if you have no money. If money's no object, then it should be possible. But then again, I am no GW pro aswell. I got from 7/50 to 30/50 in 2 days, but that was because I just hit the jackpot and bought my way there.

Nov 04, 2010, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#5
Gennadios Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: N/A	Unless your 2 year old account is 8/50 because you've been doing nothing but hoarding Ectos the whole time, it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to get 30/50 anytime soon. In the mean time, complete all 3 campaigns with all missions/bonuses, that'll pop you up to 8 pts honor. Next, do the Black Moa quest in Fac, charm a random pet and level it to 20, and then farm Djakah Inlet for 2 stolen sunspear armors. For a good 5 points in fellowship. Everything else will require money, time, and ambition.

Nov 04, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34	#6
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	It's not possible. At least, not in a non-misleading way. If you take "from scratch" as a new character on new account, you'd need a lot of time just to get the protector titles. Half an hour per mission, and already you'd need to play for two days straight to do it. And those are the "introductory titles" - first titles everyone gets. The only way you could make the statement work would be if you have an already well entrenched account that has already done everything, unlocked every skill and outpost, and has accumulated a vast amount of wealth, and then convert the wealth to HoM points mostly by buying items that count. IE, if you had the money to spare and sellers readily available, you could: -buy minipets, max of 8 points. -buy hero armor upgrades and pets, max of 8 points. -buy all the required prestige armors, max 8 points. -buy all prestige weapons, max of 8 points. But really, how about we calculate those costs, too? Just how rich would you have to be? Would you really get that money in two days? Hell, with stacks of ectos, would you find sellers of all those items in two days? Even the 20000 clicks needed to use fast consumables for the sweet tooth and party animal would be a strain on your fingers... So, no, not really. However, SOME people got the wrong idea for several reasons: -they already had many titles, but hadn't displayed them in the HoM. So, all they had to do was walk into the HoM and display them for a massive boost in points (display one title, and you've got 5 points here already (with the linked account and any title) - triple protector, and you're already 7 due to the extra statue bonus for 5 titles) -they alreadys had many characters with a few pets each, and just displayed them to gain the points (note: 1 rare mini (celestial pets are relatively easily acquired), 1 unique mini (black moa chick, just a few hours' work) - and you're already at 3/8 for minis) -everyone already has an elite armor, or the resources to buy one easily, so... -justi finishing War in kryta will get you enough war supplies and medals to get an oppressor weapon, and at least for the start, before the market found out that previously low value diamonds, onyx and granite can actually run out at the traders, destroyer weapons were a matter of fast purchase But as I said - to call this "from scratch" is ridiculously misleading.

Nov 04, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00	#7
Afonso Portugal Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2010 Guild: Lucky Crickets [Luck] Profession: Rt/	How are you a pro if you have only completed elone? What about doing UW, FoW, DoA? What about completing all campaigns? What about maxing titles? How can you consider yourself a pro with only 1 elite armour? Not trying to be mean, but please don't say you are a pro like that >>

Nov 04, 2010, 10:26 AM // 10:26	#8
kupp Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Shiverpeaks Guild: [KISS] Profession: W/	It's not possible, not one bit.

Nov 04, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41	#10
yitjuan Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GMT +8 Guild: redt Profession: Rt/	If you get run through all 3 campaigns , NM and HM with bonuses, you will have 10 titles (3x Eternal Hero 3x Eternal Protector 4x Eternal Guardian) Now who has that kind of cash ...

Nov 04, 2010, 11:06 AM // 11:06	#11
Sethellington Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: nn Profession: N/	2 days I doubt. But looking at your HoM, getting more points should be very easy. Devotion: 1: Any Gold mini 2: Any Green mini This'll give you 2 more points (and just buy first years, they're very cheap) Fellowship: 1: Cap Black Moa 2: Go get MOX (does't need armour upgrade) 3: Do any of the hero armour mini-games (you only need 2) 4: Any 5 Statues (Full display). You'll get this for completing the other 2. Should take less than an hour. Honor: 1: Sorrow's Furnace 2: Complete Tyria 3: Complete Faction This'll give you another 3 points. Depends how far you are, but should take ~4 hours to do only the necessary missions. Resilience: 1: Elite Kurzick/Luxon 2: Elite Vabbian 3: Any 2 others. This is very money dependant, but a very easy 5 points. Valor: 1: Complete War in Kryta questline and get Oppressor Weapon. 2: Buy Destroyer Weapon Another that's money dependent, but an easy 3 points. This is an easy 15 points anyway that should be doable in 2 days.

Nov 04, 2010, 11:17 AM // 11:17	#12
Spookii Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southeast, USA Profession: N/	Definitely not. For all the reasons listed above. If you're truly starting from scratch. If you just found out about GW, are running around on an Elementalist with half your points into Beast Mastery and are using a quest-reward long sword, you probably won't get to 30/50 in the next month. Just enjoy the game before it truly dies.

Nov 04, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#15
we love ectos Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: - Profession: A/Me	Went from 13 to 30 in a few days because i had some money to spend. So if you have money you can get points pretty easy, but not from 0 - 30 in 2 days.

Nov 04, 2010, 12:17 PM // 12:17	#18
domaspiragas Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2010 Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR] Profession: D/E	If you're sitting on a gold mine... and materials are at the trader + you have luck buying + Have time for sorrow's furnace + UW + FoW + Deep. Technically you could get 43 points in the span of 2 days. Possible? Yes. Likely? No way. But going 0-30 is more likely than you'd think (as long as you've got money).

Nov 04, 2010, 12:31 PM // 12:31	#20
Skye Marin Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: E/A	Considering each mission can take about 30 minutes, and then you include prep time and between-mission questing, completing all three campaigns and the expansion would take at least 36 hours. That's just to get to the end, assuming no fails, and all objectives gotten in one shot. Two days is an obvious exaggeration. Even a week to get 30/50 would be, unless you cashed in some serious ToT stacks during Halloween. If you played for 8 hours a day, and knew where everything was and used the wiki, the least amount of time it would take you is about 2 months to get 30/50, and that includes some farming time.